In a one on one match up lore-wise or on the tabletop, who. • When the blessings of all four Chaos Gods are with you, there is no such thing as ‘luck’. Frankly Abaddons stats are kinda overpowered. Feb 2, 2015. Abaddon reduces Guilliman to four wounds, then a lucky roll of 6 for drachnyen finished him off. Satisfied that his scion lived, Guilliman pressed on, leaving the fallen Chapter Master to stare in disbelief at his resurrected gene-sire. "Account for your mirth. 52. There were 5 sets of rules that this didn’t align with this; Sedras, Lucius, Corswain, Exodus and Bike khan. Ashiraya. by VyRe40. Savage Worlds. 40K loves its big showdowns. Her skin is velvety black. There’s plenty of tragedy in the gruelling world of Warhammer 40k, but few primarchs have fates as devastating as Horus Lupercal. . “I see no power here”, said Guilliman, shaking his head in dismay. ”. For anyone interested in watching me live stream my twitch channel is. Given that Luther may have been strong enough to 1v1 w/ THE LION (Maybe the best duelist Primarch) and he wasn't even a full astartes, I think Abbadon should be able to stand up to Guilliman pretty well. . If you hadn’t noticed, Guilliman and Abaddon are meant to be fighting each other. Fighting the finale boss of the game, Mortarion the Demon Prince, and ending the Bloom. Considering Horus ripped through Custodians like they were toys in Galaxy in Flames and the Custodians accompanying Guilliman got ragdolled by the daemon in Dark Imperium (that Guilliman defeated) I’d say yes, Guilliman is far and away the strongest “foot soldier” in the Imperium. ‘You make it sound as if you have brought me to heel, and will beat me in combat! After ten thousand years, you remain pompous. Kharn defeated Celestine. A showdown with The Emperor where Abbadon is revealed to be the true post-Heresy path for humanity is super interesting to me. The sensibilities of this age did not appeal to Guilliman. Would that be right?Cadia will be destroyed when Abaddon throws his last Blackstone Fortress into it. I was initially super excited that this would somehow be relevant to the storyline threads of 9th edition, but here we are two years in and the best we could come up with for Chaos vs Imperium, evil vs good, Abaddon vs Guilliman, sins of the past vs sins of the present, is apparently just Vigilus Two, Electric Boogaloo. In this case it’s because Abaddon has always been described as a giant of a Space Marine in the lore, he even needed a custom made Terminator suit during the Great Crusade. ‘He may ambush you,’ said Andros. Guilliman has contempt for the Primaris marines and sees them as tools which the Emperor did with his warriors. Blackheart would be immediately and severely fucked if he were put in that situation. Whilst we fight, we prevail. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. Like the other Primarchs, Roboute Guilliman was one of twenty genetically engineered "sons" of the Emperor of Mankind. Guilliman having to defend the evils of the Imperium vs Abbadon showing a more passionate and integrated future where humanity owns its own souls is a really cool story arc. Result a draw. With Guilliman back, the High Lords stopped ruling the Imperium in the Emperor's name, and became beholden to Guilliman instead of just. Remember when ADB ducked in to the forms when Sevitar/emperors gift. This blow would destroy a tank, but it doesn't take Guilliman out of the fight for even a moment. 12. • The scale creep is real. He actually looks like a big guy in 40K scale rather than a model of another scale. If one psyker isn't enough why don't make a team consisting of for example Mephiston, Tigurius or other powerful psyker with a sole purpose of killing Abaddon. [push-split] Decorative Snap-on case, offering basic protection. ’Lion/Imperial Truth faction vs Guilliman/overarching Imperium vs Abbaddon/Black Crusade vs Huron or Fabius’ splinter faction. CryptoSome hate Abaddon due to the fact GW has written him like a total meme, and forcibly retconned him many times in order to make him look better, but the stigma has stuck. The Abaddon vs Jubal fight was just a typical tank/big brute vs more fragile speedster fight. An Imperium that is larger, stronger, faithful and united. We don’t need more Guilliman/Ultramarines lore. Today, we have the real masters. Abaddon the Despoiler’s latest onslaught against the Imperium saw the rebirth of the Prim Roboarchute Guilliman and the Avenging Son was given his father’s weapon to help him save the Emperor’s empire. For one thing, Abaddon has withstood the temptation of giving in to the dark gods for 10. He ravaged Guilliman in a fight, and beat Russ in a duel, the only Primarch that might stand a chance against him was either suped-up Chaotic Horus or Sanguinius who was considered the best swordsman of the Primarchs. It should be the Space Marines of…The 13th Black Crusade of Abaddon the Despoiler began in 999. Business, Economics, and Finance. Emperor on his throne and Drach'nyen is interred within a sword. Abaddon vs. He'll still have a gun, just maybe not attached to. The infant Guilliman's capsule fell to earth on. These decks were super fun to play! A lot of us here at SmoothBrainEDH are huge fans. Kharn with all his gears and enhancements. Guilliman is a Primarch. Abaddon would get folded by Guilliman, Kharn wouldn't be able to do much except maybe put a few dents into his armor. ”. #Warhammer40k #Guilliman #MemeComic made by the amazing emwattnot. . Abaddon gets a three-option, selectable aura ability similar to that of Ultramarines primarch Roboute Guilliman, able to give nearby allies re-rolls to hit; a 4+ invulnerable save; or re-rolls on Leadership and. Marneus Calgar Marneus Augustus Calgar is the Chapter Master of the Ultramarines and Lord of Macragge, the capital world of the star-spanning empire of Ultramar. He was already almost as big and strong as Horus before becoming the Warmaster of Chaos, and he's only gotten more powerful since then. Today, we. After driving out the Chaos invaders, Guilliman immediately ordered a war council and a debriefing on the situation. Abaddon was actually losing to creed during a duel and had to use his storm bolter during the fall of cadia. an extraordinary alliance of four and one must put aside their differences to uphold the status quo. He always believed that they had a role in the Imperium once the Great Crusade was over. Mind wiped. I don't think Abaddon's armor is a great example, especially. 6. I've now played a fairly good chunk of 9th edition with a wide variety of armies, against a wide variety of opponents. He grew to almost equal his. Abaddon the Despoiler. Abaddon however, I think is perfect. Business, Economics, and Finance. Chaos. A similar thing happened…Normal Astartes are seven feet, Primaris and Custodes are about seven and half. Vulkan looked up, brought out of his reverie. So, I've seen a few size comparison pictures of the old vs new terminators, and loads of pictures of Abaddon, but I was just wondering if anyone has any pictures of Abaddon next to the new terminators and perhaps the DG terminators? I love Abaddon's lore and ADB's Black Legion novels,. Reborn, Guilliman swiftly drove off the Chaos invaders before grappling with the events that had occurred during his ten thousand year absence. . If he would only choose one of them, if he would only commit his destiny to one of the Gods, it would bring the Great Game of Chaos to its final moves. An exceptional Astartes, and one that has spent the last 10,000 years marinating in Warp-juice, but he's still just an Astartes. Lorgar is so ashamed that he wants to stop fighting and try. Abaddon is shown here in the current variant, as the post-heresy model, wielding the daemon sword Drach'nyen and the Talon of Horus. That final Sigismund vs Abaddon fight, the lead up to it and the aftermath is one of my favourite snippets of 40k lore. . So while Guilliman is portrayed as a saint and savior it’s only because he has to play that role. Some people think he has "villain sue" problems, some of which were exacerbated by ABD's interpretation of the character. It would also affect the Abaddon vs Guilliman dynamic as Grandpa Smurf would be more afraid of his own mortality (Abaddon being the ONLY Astarte to kill a Primarch in a duel would be an. But also Guilliman is underpowered because he’s never been given a 9th Ed re-write so far as I know. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Yes, not everything perfect. Both Abaddon and Guilliman have gauntlet mounted bolters too, but I'm not sure if this guy will have one. Sanguinius, What transpires on the surface of the Throneworld, I cannot say. . Dante Vs Abaddon. I'd imagine warbands paying a tithe to Abaddon in exchange for slices of Nihlus and his "protection" would be a matter of great contention. Explanation. Location: Poland. The God-Emperor has even rallied enough strength to burn the gardens of Nurgle, a. Business, Economics, and Finance. 0, the first two have seen model reveals - so we can assume we’ll see a Corswain, Exodus, bike khan (and bonus horus ascended) sooner rather than later ☺️. Advertisement. Abaddon is the chosen of the four gods. Sidious is in his Dark Empire incarnation. Bonus round: Lorgar Aurelian pre-chaos juice. More than that, he's one of the more deadly Primarchs (at least according to Know No Fear). Gjalarhorn • 6 yr. After the Scouring most in the Imperium believed the threat of Horus’ betrayal was ended once and for all, for surely no fleet could ever return from the ruinous hellstorm of the Eye of Terra. This puts him on a scale near or even at the Daemon Primarchs. Stats wise Guilliman would murder Abbadon (it's a primarch vs a space marine) but OP stated that pyschic powers were used to negate Guilliman's invunrable save so Abbadon had the advantage. Like his "brothers," Roboute was taken as an infant by the powers of Chaos, and removed to a far-flung world in an effort to prevent the coming Age of the Imperium. 6. The Ultramarine finally landed a glancing blow, his fist pounding across Angron’s breastplate. Rather than waste his forces on a meaningless (if badass) last stand, Abaddon continues hit and run tactics that have served him well for ten millennia, while he soaks up credit for breaking the. Look_Deeper • 7 yr. ’. Top loading bolter, but he's using a drum magazine, rendering the iron-sights near useless, and probably doing horrible things to the balance and handling. Without Abaddon, they have no hope of victory. Grudge match of the ages that doesn’t get talked about enough. “On that, Roboute,” Magnus laughed, sparing a. Chaos Warmaster Abaddon with Talon of Horus and Drach'nyen fights against all versions of all Primarchs in a series of 1v1 fights. I think it would make Abaddon a much more credible threat in the community's eyes if he actually did beat Guilliman in a duel. That was the time Guilliman wrote the codex, the time when Guilliman made himself lord-commander to oversee the reformation of it's central governance before stepping down. ‘You make it sound as if you have brought me to heel, and will beat me in combat! After ten thousand years, you remain pompous. All of this culminated in the first major battle of the Solar War, the Battle of Pluto. One of his gauntlets where torn away to. Guilliman knew his brothers well, and here, in this grandiose war engine, he saw all the hallmarks of the Daemon Primarch Magnus the Red. The same can be argued about any character who most only know about from memes. Humiliating if you ask me, considering how Russ beat Magnus, the second strongest Psyker ever yet Guilliman gets on his knees by an attack from an augmented guy. k0rda. Abaddon with all his chaos gear and enhancements. Guilliman may not be the best physical fighter amongst all the Primarchs, but he still stands head and shoulders above what any Astartes could ever dream of attaining. " — Marneus Calgar, Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Chapter Marneus Augustus Calgar (pronounced Mar-NAY-us Cal-gar) is the current Chapter Master of the Ultramarines Space Marines. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Like the other Primarchs, Roboute Guilliman was one of twenty genetically engineered "sons" of the Emperor of Mankind. Mortarion wins. Round Five: mother fing Roboute Guilliman. Just remember that Chaos needed 9 traitor Primarchs with their legions working in tandem. This manliness makes me want to shed a tear. In a heated argument, during which the Grand Master dared the Primarch’s wrath, he forced Guilliman to acknowledge that which he already knew. true to his self, he does not take the deal. Ghaz isn't even at the level of a warboss under a primeork. During the Ultramar Campaign, Belisarius Cawl and his Eldar allies managed to revive the wounded Ultramarines Primarch Roboute Guilliman as Ultramar was besieged by Abaddon the Despoiler's Chaos Space Marine forces. Hey everyone Rho here! Today we discuss the possible reunion between Roboute Guilliman and Lion El'Jonson! As we ask what can we learn from their previous hi. 🤕帝国之子 Guilliman是一个强大的战士，但与Abaddon相比，他的实力稍显逊色。他虽然是帝国之子，但他的力量和技巧并不足以与Abaddon相提并论。他的实力可能无法在战场上取得胜利，尤其是面对Abaddon这样的强敌。他的存在可能无法给敌人带来足够的威慑力量。The next book should have Abaddon and Robbie G battle against each other on Vigilus once the Ultramarines and Black Legion lock each other into a stalemate. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables. . 39. Abaddon and Horus have many quotes and statements about who should rule the Imperium. + FRATER DOMUS +. Otherwise, Magnus, who has several centuries to improve his own. Something Horus himself failed to do, and something Abaddon does precisely because of Horus. Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Warhammer 40k Necrons. 40K loves its big showdowns. The gods promise that they can give him the power he needs to truly defeat Guilliman and conquer the imperium if he just finally accepts daemonhood. Abaddon reduces Guilliman to four wounds, then a lucky roll of 6 for drachnyen finished him off. Subject: Roboute Guilliman size comparison. Over the course of this week, we’ve seen some vicious battles as we’ve looked to crown the Death Match champions of Warhammer 40,000. Guilliman killed Abaddon with ease with the emperor’s sword. 0001728%, so I think I'm happy to conclude that Guilliman fighting Abbadon in 30k will always end with Guilliman's victory within at most two combat phases. So with both Cadia lost and the formation of the…Chapter Master Marneus Calgar leads his Ultramarines in the desperate defence of Macragge. [Excerpt from “Solar War”]Guilliman gets hit with hundreds of tons, which does injure him, but he then bursts through and throws aside much of it, but he is also on Luna at said point, and it isn't like he is actually throwing around all the mass he got hit with on account of it scattering about after it hits, and when he bursts free. Game: Warhammer 40k. Weeks of labour had been for nought. SlaaneshG on DeviantArt SlaaneshGWe are the Ultramarines, the Sons of Guilliman. So not only is it outside Guilliman’s realm of consideration when he conceived of the Dauntless Few but even then, Two Legions vs. Using a suit of advanced Power Armour that regenerated the wounds inflicted during his last battle, Guilliman was restored to health just as Abaddon’s Black Legion forces invaded Macragge. Abaddon is definitely Primarch-tier at this point. In this case it’s because Abaddon has always been described as a giant of a Space Marine in the lore, he even needed a custom made Terminator suit during the Great Crusade. Abaddon and Lorgar might both be Chaos Undivided but Abaddon only sees Chaos as a means to become Emperor while Lorgar is completely devoted to Chaos. The resurrected Roboute Guilliman charged Calgar to secure the rest of Ultramar from the Forces of Chaos as he embarked on the Terran Crusade. Abaddon is the chosen of the dark gods and he literally slow walked a plan for like a century then ripped the Imperium in half. The bulk of 6-9 depending on how you count, isn. On the back you can see one of the earliest artworks of Abaddon. The Gods had empowered him so he could stand toe-to-toe with the Emperor. Character Duels ep. Official Warhammer 40,000 phone case. Here’s a look at how their minis fit together! It’s a. Abaddon is probably has more chaos fuel in him than Luther. You will also need more than one coat as, just as he mentioned in the video, watered down Abaddon Black will slightly run off some of the areas of the shiny plastic on the first coat. Indeed, the famous Astra Militarum fortress world of Cadia would not be fortified for over a millennium. To watch the Ragnar Blackmane vs Mephiston Battle Report, go here: held by some as a paragon among the Emperor's sons,. Guilliman speculates that the Rift formed after Abaddon strategically destroyed worlds rich in Blackstone over ten thousand years, with the destruction of Cadia as its trigger. Such ultimate authorities required a direct gene-sample, and it was often too cumbersome for a fully plated warrior to remove a power fist or gauntlet to affect a dermal read. Hes been. In a Vacuum I'd say they don't compare to Guilliman, but in practice all 3 are the best fits for their forces. As a second choice though, Ahriman vs imhotehk the storm lord. Round 5: Abbadon the Despoiler. ’ Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. Fighting Skill. Now as a fighter, Roboute is decent if not pretty. Plus if old sigsmund was able to land a killing blow on him. It's clumsy. Huron is a child, Abby is making it look like fantasy end times reaching his significant 13th crusade. The sound shook the cell. DORN and Guilliman accepted the astartes of their two brothers. He's holding this rickety ship of the Imperium together through sheer grit. ’ Lion/Imperial Truth faction vs Guilliman/overarching Imperium vs Abbaddon/Black Crusade vs Huron or Fabius’ splinter faction. Kharn's name strikes much more fear than Celestine. In the Space Marine future of the Space marine, there is only Space Marine. That lion is going to have a very sore bed head when he finally hears his alarm. Its also how the Daemon in Abaddon's sword can be such a threat to the Emperor, because it's the story of humanities first murder, and the antithesis of The Emperor, as he is of the Chaos Gods. #1. Vulkan disapears at some point befoee Guilliman os wounded and but later reappears over a 1000 years later. All the “Primarchs can’t be compared to non-Primarchs” logic goes out the window when you can field Guilliman or Mortarion on the battlefield against Abaddon. Guilliman's on the other hand has a purpose other than keeping his own position secure and an objective. IMO Abbadon < Guilliman < Chaos-Empowered Abbadon = Emperor-Empowered Guilliman. )Couldn't show in time for the short, but Guilliman lost his revive roll. 000 years. Calgar is the leader of the Ultramarines. With the Daemonsword he can take on Dorn, kill him in one strike. Do not do this,’ said Thiel. If he doesn’t again violent civil war. Drachnyen is better, but not that much better. After all of the boons and blessings Abaddon has received from the Chaos Gods he is essentially up to the same level as a Primarch who hasn't ascended to Daemonhood, so I would expect Guilliman to come in at the same stats. ago. So yes, the primarchs are stronger, but not against Abaddon himself. It's important to understand that Guilliman's return did not come out of nowhere and as such the community had a bit of time to prepare for such upheavals. Whilst we draw breath, we stand. He was dying again. Oh yeah and the Emperors sword is superior power wise to Abbadon's. Then a massive chaos army attacks the palace directly, breaching the defenses of Earth; Abaddon remains hidden. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. Round three: 1v1 against Cato Sicarius. The galaxy of 40k is now a war between warring administrators. The reverse is true. Now, Abaddons sword on the other hand is a daemon, the echo of the first murder, one of the most powerful chaotic artifacts in 40k. In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only SmoothBrain. #1. ago. Show more. Abaddon is probably has more chaos fuel in him than Luther. A showdown with The Emperor where Abbadon is revealed to be the true post-Heresy path for humanity is super interesting to me. Hateful art for a hateful time. The Chief Librarian felt Guilliman’s gaze upon him then, for just a heartbeat. But yeah, Nurgle needs to "beg" Abaddon to. Abaddon however, I think is perfect. . Amongst all of the artifacts were 3 pieces to what he called the Key, which would open the Vault. Ghaz got his head chopped off by Ragnar. I don't really see Guilliman vs Abbadon as much of a challenge for. Big E. Each time an attack is made with this weapon, on an unmodified wound roll of 6, the target suffers D3 mortal wounds in addition to any normal damage. Abaddon is an Astartes. ‘I cannot!’ the Lion cursed. Guilliman faced the field and reached out his hand. Presumably, they haven't taken over Abaddon's job because they 'd rather be out crumping heads at the forefront of their armies than sitting on a spaceship plotting the campaign. You shall follow me, Khârn the Betrayer. Assuming that the Guilliman new sword is essentially an extension of the Emperors will it is basically time for round 2 of the fight to start. The Primarch’s appraising stare seemed to strip Tigurius down to his soul. With the arrival of Guilliman and the quasi-alliance with the Eldar, the Imperium is resurgent once more, as Macragge is now the new Segmentum Solar and the Administratum is now being revamped. Abaddon has killed warhosts the size of the Red Corsairs and absorbed them into his ranks, and the Black Legion all answer to Abaddon's command. ago. Warp Storms are disabled. He always believed that they had a role in the Imperium once the Great Crusade was over. Hell, a whole squad couldn't kill Resolute Givemeham despite having the jump on him and him not having any armor or weaponry. 40K loves its big. Abaddon vs Jubal Khan, a duel between Legends. Inspired by The Dornian Heresy by Aurelius Rex, The Roboutian Heresy describes an alternate universe for Warhammer 40,000, where Roboute Guilliman was the one to lead nine Space Marine Legions in rebellion against the Emperor. Abaddon could easily kill Guilliman, even with the Emperors Blade. This would be another major narrative arc with Abaddon being forced to answer for his actions on blowing up Cadia. Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. Round six: screw it send in Calgar Cato and Guilliman all at once. ‘You’re still a slave, Angron. The final battle of the war took place here, with Guilliman and Mortarion fighting each other to a standstill amongst the ruins of Iax. When Valerian learned that Guilliman planned on launching the Indomitus. Over time a Primarch would win. We are a group of geeks dedicated to bringing you entertaining and informative videos about miniature wargaming, including battle reports, narrative campaigns, painting tutorials, and other random. Centuries later, after Abaddon the Despoiler had launched his Thirteenth Black Crusade and the destroyed of the planet Cadia, the Tech-Priest Belisarius Cawl, and Saint Celestine led a group of Imperial survivors into the Eldar Webway. ‘That is not the destiny I have decreed for you. Two psychic attacks was enough to completely draw the strength out of Guilliman and make him helpless. In a one-on-one, there is a good chance Abaddon either kills or beats a primarch. If this happens, the Custodes could possibly follow Guilliman instead of protecting the throne (if they believe this is the Emperor's will), and thus move towards being their own faction. Round 1: One on One. Guilliman is projecting his disappointment of the 40k Imperium onto Calgar. The invasion is just bait though, designed to lure Guilliman into a position where he can be flanked and trapped by additional armies and fleets. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. Guilliman would beat Abaddon pretty soundly. "The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed. There's no ejection port, meaning there either isn't one, or its on the other side, making it a left handed drum magazine top loading bolter. But Sigismund believed. Lorgar is a weirdo who is barely mentioned in any codex and has never amounted to anything of any kind in 40K, outside a handful of novels that were set 10. ‘I face you at last, my brother,’ said Guilliman. Calgar stirred, one eye opening to look up at the Primarch reborn. Bright decorations appeared as tarnish cracked and fell away. On subsequent rounds the odds of Abbadon dying increase as Guilliman starts to hit on 3+, up to about 80. The speculation is that Guilliman goes to talk with the Emperor, and emerges with the Emperors sword. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Guilliman killed Abaddon with ease with the emperor’s sword. Also, this a mechanic to push the Dark Imperium plot forward. While I haven’t read much of the fluff, I understand that his fight with Sigismund was the closest he ever came to death. People just want to hate on Abaddon. Posted December 28, 2017. Guilliman sent a message to Sanguinius as he approached the Sol System. Even ignoring that, he's wielding Drachnyen as well as the Talon of Horus. Greater Daemons are definitely one of them. Macragge's Honour is an Imperial Gloriana-class Battleship that serves as the flagship of Roboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines and the lord commander of the Imperium. And if the High Lords wish to deny the authority of the Regent, know that they deny themselves to legitimacy of leadership of the Imperium, for they succeeded the Council of Terra on orders of Guilliman's reformation of the Imperium. Love the Abaddon vs. The scenario: Angron decides to NOT take part in the Heresy and fight AGAINST Horus ( strange - I know ), Fulgrim keeps on track and they clash on the Field of Battle. This Vault laid outside reality and the warp, for it contained some ancient weapons from the War in Heaven, either of Old One or Necrontyr design, it's not revealed which. Abaddon's strategy was based around the concept of The Crimson Path: by summoning enough Daemons to the surface of Cadia, he intended to overload the. I shall issue a proclamation as Lord Guilliman and as the Chapter Master of the Imperial Fists that all Chapters shall release a portion of their veterans to provide the initial basis for this founding, the greatest since the First. And the Emperor is. He felt a species of delight at the revelation that this daemon demigod was not as omniscient as it sought to appear. A. Practical: Abaddon cannot match the concentrated military might wielded by Guilliman whilst his numbers are so bolstered by the Un-numbered sons. Guilliman vs Abaddon: Who would win in a Fight? Let's have some fun with the stats of some of the mightiest combatants of the 41st millenium and pitch Abaddon vs the might of the primarch. When the blessings of all four Chaos Gods are with you, there is no such thing as ‘luck’. Along with the conclusion of a story that’s been in the works since the days of Roboute Guilliman’s awakening, new editions of the original books (Dark Imperium and Plague War) are soon. ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord. When Lorgar confronts Guilliman at Nuceria, Lorgar realizes that Guilliman had never hated him before the Heresy, and that every preconception he had about Guilliman was wrong. The wings were more than adornment; from the sound of it, there was not enough lift in the gravity impeller to keep it aloft. Despite it taking many months in the Warp for Gulliman to return to Terra, Abaddon stays hidden away in the Warp instead. The edit made me imagine the Emperor as Vince McMahon and Abaddon as MoD Undertaker, which made me want the 40K End Times to be a wrestling pay-per-view, with the main event being Abaddon and the Emperor VS Guilliman and Dante, with Eldrad, the Silent King and Vect as commentators and Ghazgkhull as the special guest reverie. To their fore was the. It'll all be worth it when Calgar finally snaps and goes traitor/on a one man penance crusade to atone for. The Gods had empowered him so he could stand toe-to-toe with the Emperor. Plus he has Drach'nyen, a sword that exists to destroy the Emperor. Abaddon getting his empire in semi-realspace will be a cool direction for Chaos but only if it doesn't result in uniformity. Now for the fun rounds :D. - he fights ALL Primarchs, both pre-Heresy versions and post-Heresy/Daemon Princes/current (whichever applies)The Lion has even said that he thinks one of the reasons Guilliman is a weaker combatant when compared to his brothers is because he is unable to have total focus on any one thing. M41, and resulted in the largest mobilisation of both Imperial and Chaotic forces seen since the Horus Heresy. Abaddon is on his way to Vigilus and people are getting excited about our best Chaos boy coming face to face with the Imperium's only truly competent commander, but if they DO. Guilliman has to tread carefully because he knows if he pisses off the The Ecclesiarchy violent civil war will happen. Lastly The primarch watched it go back to its roost with critical eyes. An undying force of the Emperor of Mankind's indomitable will, Saint Celestine is known for raining holy fire against the Imperium's enemies' armies, turning the tide of entire engagements. This”, the Daemon Primarch said, empyric energies stirring as they gathered around his levelled glaive, “is what true power looks like. Result a draw. Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. [Excerpt from “Solar War. Assuming that the Guilliman new sword is essentially an extension of the Emperors will it is basically time for round 2 of the fight to start. Guilliman is a Primarch. Any actual Primarch would stomp Abaddon without trying. People always whine he never reached Terra, but Abaddon never planned to reach Terra. Abaddon is more comparable to Marneus Calgar than Guilliman, in terms of rules at least. Blood poured into the air, glistening, burning in the sword’s power field. Abaddon reduces Guilliman to four wounds, then a lucky roll of 6 for drachnyen finished him off. . Abaddon would get facerolled by the Emperor in 1v1 combat. He finally landed a glancing blow, his fist pounding across Angron’s breastplate. . Roboute Guilliman-----. Look at the anniversary poster where both types of marines are fighting side by side, the difference is barely noticeable. As Abaddon the Despoiler 's 13th Black Crusade raged on the Fortress World of Cadia in 999. ++ CHAOS ++. Guilliman’s accommodation on the Dawn of Fire was scarcely less palatial than his buildings on Terra. 26. Its purpose was to complete a mysterious artifact known as The Key to The Lock and activate The Weapon, which has the power to destroy the Imperium. Since some Kairos was able to capture Guilliman then why imperium will not use the same tactic on Abaddon. Also looking at who would have the upper hand if the faced off on the tabletop!What do you t. . I started with Chaos, had a lot of difficulty, and decided to test various other armies to get a better feel for the meta, vs the Chaos fishbowl scenario. •. Guilliman has always struck me as the most human of all the Primarchs. brother battle of Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus, the father/son fight of the Emperor and Horus, or the more recent clashes between Abbadon and seemingly. M41) - Barely has Roboute Guilliman returned to Terra when the empyric bow waves of the Great Rift 's birth sweep over the Sol System. Guilliman isn't going to purge the Space Marines. ‘He will want to prove he is better by feat of arms. Abaddon believes that the destiny of man lies in the hands of the legions of Space Marines, not the beings built by the Emperor. Hell even Lorgar would wipe the floor with Abaddon's top knot without breaking a sweat. ”. This thread is archived. Indeed, the famous Astra Militarum fortress world of Cadia would not be fortified for over a millennium. But worst of all, he has nearly 10,000 years of combat experience. hypareal. 8. He isn't; his model accentuates his size in the same way Tom Cruise always looks taller in his films than he actually is. My money is on the blue guy. No chance. . The source of their conflicts was never Guilliman doing something the Lion hated. . After the Scouring most in the Imperium believed the threat of Horus’ betrayal was ended once and for all, for surely no fleet could ever return from the ruinous hellstorm of the Eye of Terra. Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge, Master of the Ultramarines. Emperor's Legion is a terrific book. Guilliman paused for a moment in his rampage, looking down upon this fallen son with an unreadable expression on his face.